It interviews to the doctor. Ing. Claudio Poggi, drawn from the site of Beppe Grillo; Claudio Poggi, tratta dal sito di Beppe Grillo;
The interview refers to the recent rules introduced by the “Technical Government It gets on” been going to eliminate each impediment on the introduction of the new technologies I radiate, thought about devices of mobile telephony. Very much desired you give carrier Italians (for their obvious economic reasons), but safety catches on the plan of the public health?
There interesting the final reference to the technology wifi.
With the new year they are reaching surprises. It it is one that we do not know, his name is Lte, acronym of Long Term Evolution. It is an evolution of the telephone net. È un’evoluzione della rete telefonica.
In September of this year the Italian Government has packed almost 4 milliards with the sale of the telephone frequencies for the Lte. But what is it? It is a technology that will allow the access for the mobile wide side. È una tecnologia che permetterà l’accesso alla banda larga mobile.
It is perfect news for those that are not reached by the telephone duplex cable, because they will be able to have access finally to very fast Internet and stratospheric prices must not pay for installations. Nevertheless for others, me included, she is a cattivissima news because in fact it will involve an increase of the electromagnetic pollution. It will be necessary, since the Lte is not compatible with the preexistent technologies, to spread a new apparatus net out. It will be more some aerials thousands, those that here are already for the telephony. Sarà necessario, visto che la Lte non è compatibile con le tecnologie preesistenti, stendere una nuova rete di apparati. Ci saranno alcune migliaia di antenne in più, oltre quelle che ci sono già per la telefonia.
Someone will say: "It goes well, but meanwhile there are the controls”. It is truth, they make the Harp well their work, nevertheless they must apply the law. Then we see which there are the laws of the Italian state to regulate the electromagnetic pollution. They it are of two types: the electromagnetic pollution that from it results from the aerial that we have on the head or in the house in front of us, and the electromagnetic pollution that from it results from the cell-phone that we hold in hand. Allora vediamo quali sono le leggi dello Stato italiano per regolamentare l’inquinamento elettromagnetico. Ce ne sono di due tipi: l’inquinamento elettromagnetico che ci deriva dall’antenna che abbiamo sulla testa o nella casa di fronte a noi, e l’inquinamento elettromagnetico che ci deriva dal telefonino che teniamo in mano.
For the first one, in 1997 a scientist whose name is Livio Julian developed a very good scientific approach, with which it has identified limit of 6 volt for metre. This limit was received by the Italian legislation in 1998. It is the perfect limit, so much it is truth that has been received also by the near Switzerland. They have received above all the cultural and scientific background that was to the backs. Also other states have received it, for example the Chinese. The Chinese have carried the limit a little more in high, referring nevertheless to the same scientific background. È un ottimo limite, tant’è vero che è stato recepito anche dalla vicina Svizzera. Hanno recepito soprattutto il background culturale e scientifico che stava alle spalle. Anche altri stati lo hanno recepito, per esempio i cinesi. I cinesi hanno portato il limite un po’ più in alto, riferendosi però allo stesso background scientifico.
This limit of 6 Volt/metro has nevertheless always given trouble and there have been several attempts to modify it. The last one was an October 24 2011, when in the Council of the Ministers there has been carried a draught that was foreseeing a weakening. He intended to calculate the 6 Volt/metro not in the classic interval of 6 minutes (itself 6 minutes are used because in this time interval the human body has 95 % of variation of the temperature), but in 24 hours. It is obvious that in the reckoning the hours would be finished also, for example those night, in which there is not a traffic and those in which during the day the traffic is inferior.è stata portata una bozza che prevedeva un depotenziamento. Si propose di computare i 6 Volt/metro non nell’intervallo classico di 6 minuti (si usano 6 minuti perché in questo intervallo di tempo il corpo umano ha il 95% di variazione della temperatura), ma in 24 ore. È ovvio che nel computo sarebbero finite anche le ore, per esempio quelle notturne, in cui non c’è traffico e quelle in cui durante il giorno il traffico è inferiore.
What has happened then? Several personalities have intervened, several also institutional companies and this weakening of 6 Volt/metro has been withdrawn. But it has not disappeared. Where has it gone finishing? It has gone finishing of the new law “It saves Italy” of the Government It gets on. That one that as well as harassing us with so many taxes, will harass us with so many electromagnetic fields. It is useless that he tells you how the fact should be absurd that a rule so squisitamente technique is provided by a rule so squisitamente legislative.. Ma non è sparito. Dov’è andato a finire? È andato a finire della nuova legge “Salva Italia” del Governo Monti. Quella che oltre a tartassarci con tante tasse, ci tartasserà con tanti campi elettromagnetici. È inutile che vi dica come sia assurdo il fatto che una norma così squisitamente tecnica sia prevista da una norma così squisitamente legislativa.
This forcing how is it possible to explain? Perhaps because here it waits to him that the electromagnetic pollution goes up very much with new Lte, but it is not completely. As well as the radiation that we must undergo in arrival with the aerials, it is also those that arrive from the cell-phones that we use normally. The law was establishing 36/01 that within 120 days the Government must issue a rule for the mobile devices. It does not happened up to 2003, when the law 36/03 assumed an European recommendation that foresees a 2 Watt limit for kilogramme. This is heavy, not only why 2Watt for kilogramme to the frequencies that interest us, it means that the limit is not any more 6 V/metro but it is over 260 Volt/metro, and why we the scientific picture in which the whole our protection had been conceived at electromagnetic field has been ignored by our Government. Oltre alle radiazioni che dobbiamo subire in arrivo dalle antenne, ci sono anche quelle che arrivano dai cellulari che usiamo normalmente. La legge 36/01 stabiliva che entro 120 giorni il Governo dovesse emettere un regolamento per i dispositivi mobili. Non è avvenuto fino al 2003, quando la legge 36/03 ha assunto una raccomandazione europea che prevede un limite di 2 Watt per chilogrammo. Ciò è grave, non solo perché 2Watt per chilogrammo alle frequenze che ci interessano, significa che il limite non è più 6 V/metro ma è oltre 260 Volt/metro, e perché noi il quadro scientifico in cui era stata concepita tutta la nostra protezione da campo elettromagnetico è stato disconosciuto dal nostro Governo.
Some time it does that we have seen an article that he was saying “absolved the cell-phones” and have gone seeing a little, which the cause of this absolution was, the cause was a Danish study that had been published in the October 2011. He was saying absolutely different things. First of all it was a study that it was taking in consideration it dates only up to 1995, when that one was using a technology to itself diversada of now (now there is used the Gsm and the Umts what there are digital technologies and up to 1995 there has been used above all Tacs and Etacs that are analogic technologies), then there is a really incredible svarione. You think that in this study that absolves the cell-phones, there are considered as great users those who do calls for 3 minutes in the day, then it seems to me that this one says everything. Innanzitutto era uno studio che prendeva in considerazione dati solo fino al 1995, quando si utilizzava una tecnologia diversada quella di adesso (adesso si usa il Gsm e l’Umts che sono tecnologie digitali e fino al 1995 si è usato soprattutto Tacs e Etacs che sono tecnologie analogiche), poi c’è uno svarione veramente incredibile. Pensate che in questo studio che assolve i telefonini, vengono considerati come grandi utilizzatori coloro che fanno telefonate per 3 minuti al giorno, quindi mi sembra che questo dica tutto.
But is possible that is not anyone who says a definitive word about our health, which should not worry, a national organisation or sovranazionale? In fact there are no answers with the sanitary authorities, because the sanitary authorities are slow, they are slow because they must have to do with their tools, with their science, then they must do for example epidemiological inquiries and an epidemiological inquiry requires many years, thought for example the time of latency of a mesotelioma pleurico, the tumour of the asbestos develops also in 30 years.
Then is it necessary to say that in fact the sanitary authorities are not slow, it is simply slower, but slower of what? Of the industry, it is obvious, for the industry the time to market is crucial, that is the time that passes when a technology has been conceived, it has been adjusted, to when it is then given in meal to the market.
It is obvious that who arrives beforehand on the market has also the competitive advantage on others, this haste of arriving on the market does so that if only there do not become studies deepened for the long term and things of this family.
This is the cause therefore it will notice it, I am afraid, what the electromagnetic fields and that another thing what there are the insecticides neonicotinoidi, are making many damages, hope to make a mistake obviously!
An example of this headlong introduction of the technology, of this double speed, the institutions that they are forced for things strength to go lens and instead of the industries that are forced to go fast, one is seen everywhere.
A classic example is that of the Wi-fi. By now they all have him to us because it is not more possible to find a modem or a router that has not the antennina of the Wi-fi, but nobody is told you: "you feel if it does not use it extinguish it, in night not to sleep with the attached Wi-fi because it is not truth that gives a low field”. Nobody tells it to you. It is not told you by who sells it you and does well not to tell it to you because he must not tell the use rules to her, but he must tell her the manual, well but if you go on the manual you do not find anything the same thing, why the manual that has been drafted certainly in conformity with the rules EEC must receive the recommendations of the sanitary authorities and the sanitary authorities they do not say anything, why also they have the delay about which I was saying beforehand.. Nessuno ve lo dice. Non ve lo dice chi ve lo vende e fa bene a non dirvelo perché le norme d’uso non deve dirle lui, ma deve dirle il manuale, beh ma se andate sul manuale non trovate niente lo stesso, perché il manuale che è stato redatto certamente in conformità con le norme CEE deve accogliere le raccomandazioni delle autorità sanitarie e le autorità sanitarie non dicono nulla, perché anche loro hanno il ritardo di cui dicevo prima.
How does one go out of this thing? One goes out with a rule that among other things has been received also by the European legislation, it might go out, this rule is “the beginning of precaution”, obviously the people call themselves the beginning of precaution a little how he wants, but a beginning of precaution that likes very much to me is: a dreaded damage must be considered as a verified damage, until he does not prove to be the contrary one, but it is known that the road that it leads to the hell is paved of good intentions! un danno temuto deve essere considerato come un danno accertato, fino a quando non si dimostri il contrario, ma si sa che la strada che porta all’inferno è lastricata di buone intenzioni!
Good year to all!
